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Just read that the fanboys have started a petition to have Ben Affleck removed, in other words FIRED from Batman.

WTF. What a dick move. I mean, this is his JOB, he just got hired for a job and you want to have him FIRED?

When did nerds become such assholes?

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Date: 2013-08-24 01:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ekaterin24.livejournal.com
As whatever Ben did/said was not in the latest issue of People that I was reading at the hairdresser's this afternoon and I rarely read ads when surfing the Web, I'm clueless about it. I do know that Ben runs an fair-trade organic chocolate organization (which wins him major points in my book).

I adore his response, and that he got Jay and Silent Bob in on it. I bet Kevin was delighted to participate.

I have to admit, I'm sort of boycotting Ender's Game because Orson Scott Card is a party-line Mormon douche about homosexuality, but mainly because I was perfectly happy with the book and much as I love science fiction, I'm not big on war movies anyway (Capt. Harlock, Space Pirate is a different thing because it's, you know, anime and because Harlock is an awesome hero. I hope like heck that movie comes to the DC area.)

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Date: 2013-08-24 01:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] orangerful.livejournal.com
oh that clip is from "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" which is...erm...12 years old? Just amusing that is sorta covers what's happening right now.

Ben didn't say anything! He just was cast as batman, that's it. And apparently the fanboys are still bitter about Daredevil.

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Date: 2013-08-24 03:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] duncatra.livejournal.com
I'm no fan of Affleck and I totally get being disappointed by the choice, but I really don't see how anyone is taking that petition - or any of the reaction - particularly seriously. Of course the fanboys are raging, that's what fanboys do.

I'd have shrugged at whoever they cast to be Snyder's Batman. Bale, silly voice aside, left some pretty big shoes to fill. I think Affleck would have done just fine as Batman in the more campy Tim Burton/Joel Schumacher mode, but with Man of Steel and (presumably) the sequel taking so much inspiration from the Nolan films it just seems... Odd. I can't parse him in that world yet, and maybe the fanboys can't either.

(Man, remember when the Burton films first came out and they were 'serious' because all we had to compare them to was Adam West?)

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Date: 2013-08-24 01:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] orangerful.livejournal.com
I think what really has me aggravated is this sense of entitlement that has run rampant the last few years. Going beyond the realm of complaining and actually *hurting* the people involved with the projects. I blame EA and the whole Mass Effect 3 debacle, and instead of just telling the fanboys to suck it they fell over themselves to create the super-mega-happy-ending to make them stop complaining (which, of course, they never will). And now this petition (which I know nothing will come of but it makes us look so petty). So it really has less to do with Batman and more to do with this culture of the most obnoxious fans win. I think plenty of us casual Batman fans were just like "hm, Affleck...okay" but this whole "omg we are going to contact Obama about this" is just embarrassing.

And omg I had no idea Keaton had become so SACRED. My one friend on facebook would just not DREAM of a time when people maybe doubted his casting. I mean, he was a good Batman for his time but I tried to rewatch those movies and they just feel so dated now, next to the Nolan films they are almost campy.

And after that last Batman movie, I was sorta done with Nolan's world of the serious comic book story. Even if the Avengers movies were flawed, at least they were fun. Dark Knight Rises...ugh. 3 hours of brooding with no break and a cheesy ending.

Speaking of...why is there no mention of JGL as Robin???

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Date: 2013-08-24 05:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geekslave.livejournal.com
Pretty crappy thing for them to do, though I doubt anything they do will have any effect. But I feel bad for Ben.

Stacey

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Date: 2013-08-24 01:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] orangerful.livejournal.com
I know, right? I'm rooting for him now just because of the underdog effect! Give the man a chance! Sheesh.

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Date: 2013-08-24 05:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skindyedindigo.livejournal.com
Have those same people gone back to look at the responses Health got for the Joker. Just because the actor is calm and mellow doesn't mean he can't pull from within himself the ability to become someone entirely different.

As you said, IT'S HIS BLOODY JOB. Argh.

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Date: 2013-08-24 01:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] orangerful.livejournal.com
SO TRUE! I remember when they cast Ledger and everyone was "oh he can't do it".

I think that is what really has me aggravated right now is the sense of entitlement and that the fanboys should get to control these things. I blame EA/Bioware and their reactions to the Mass Effect 3 freakout. I know part of it is the social media culture but I don't think businesses should bend to the wishes of fanatics.

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Date: 2013-08-24 07:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purple-perrier.livejournal.com
IKR?!?!?!

I mean shut the fuck up and get over it.

I cannot believe how much flack he is getting.

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Date: 2013-08-24 01:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] orangerful.livejournal.com
It's ridiculous! I didn't really care when it was initially announced but now I'm rooting for him because how can you not love an underdog???? TEAM BATFFLECK!

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Date: 2013-08-24 09:52 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] elisi
To quote Russel T. Davies:

Yet none of them has been attacked [online] as viciously as I’ve been. I always thought I was a big old poof (albeit Number One Poof!), but sometimes I think I must be made of some sort of steel. I read that stuff and it doesn’t stop me, not ever. I’ve got quite high-flown and fancy beliefs about art that maybe put it all into perspective. Principally: it is not a democracy. Creating something is not a democracy. The people have no say. The artist does. It doesn’t matter what the people witter on about; they and their response come after. They’re not there for the creation.
    This is becoming one of the great arguments of the day, for populist writers especially. It taps into the whole debate across journalism about the democratisation of the critic. It was summed up best by Rachel Cooke in The Observer recently, where she said that the online voice writes with a deep sense of exclusion. [...] I think it’s right that they’re excluded! [...] If something is typed it seems official. [...] So it can mess up writers when they read that endlessly critical voice. It’s completely, completely destructive.
The Writers Tale, Sunday 6 May 2007

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Date: 2013-08-24 01:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] orangerful.livejournal.com
"Creating something is not a democracy" - I love that. I need to write that down.

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Date: 2013-08-24 01:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhoda-rants.livejournal.com
When did nerds become such assholes?

When they discovered the Internet. *sigh* I guess technically "nerds" got online before most people, but still, that kind of mass-trolling has been getting worse and worse lately.

I also like the Russell T. Davies quote in the comment right above me--whine all you want, this is happening. Live with it.

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Date: 2013-08-24 01:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] orangerful.livejournal.com
As I said in a couple comments above this, I realized yesterday what really got me riled up about this is the sense of entitlement these fanboys have over other people's work. I put the blame on EA/Bioware for their reaction to the whole Mass Effect 3 debacle a few years ago. By giving in, they told the online mob that if they complained enough, they would change their product.

But I'm thinking a major movie studio like WB could care less. :)

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