just say no to sequels!

[orangerful]

Disney announced Indiana Jones 5 for 2019.

There was also a Blade Runner sequel announcement that I either missed or blocked out.

After the awful, painful mess that was Crystal Skull, I had really hoped that Spielberg would just let Indy ride off into the sunset (which was the way Last Crusade ended...and should have been the end of the franchise. You don't ride off into the sunset only to show up again!)

And a Blade Runner sequel? With a 70 year old Harrison Ford? So it will have to be set 30 years from the end of the original...wait, which VERSION of Blade Runner is this a sequel to anyway?? Aren't there like 30 director's cuts?

I mean, who knows, maybe they will surprise me! Maybe I will watch these movies and it will be like 'Force Awakens', capturing the magic of the original films and bringing them to a new generation....

...'Force Awakens' was really an anomaly though. For every 10 reboot/sequel of a classic franchise, we get one good one.

Comments

[saturnsdaughter.livejournal.com]

I really wish this decades later sequel business would stop. I know nostalgia is highly profitable right now. But what about all the original content we're not seeing because Hollywood isn't willing to take risks anymore? It seems to be increasingly rare that movies come out that aren't a reboot, sequel, or adaptation of some sort.

[orangerful.livejournal.com]

Agreed. And I don't understand why people keep going to see some of them. Honestly, when I first heard that Harrison and Carrie and Mark would be back for the new Star Wars, my first thought was "I don't want to see that, it will make ME feel old!"

But that's Hollywood for you. They don't look at quality, just box office and, unfortunately, these things make a ton of money.

[ragnarok-08.livejournal.com]

Whaaaaaat?

Oy, sequels really can be a mixed bag nowadays, especially to such nostalgic movies.

[poniesandphotos.livejournal.com]

I'm so over sequels. Make some new stuff once in a while!

[velvetwhip.livejournal.com]

I have been trying to block out both announcements. First of all, you are so right about Indy and you are just as right about the 793 Director's Cuts that make a Blade Runner sequel a rather dicey proposition. Not to mention the fact that the best thing about Blade Runner was Rutger Hauer, whose character was killed off, so why bother with a sequel in any case?


Gabrielle

[http://users.livejournal.com/_profiterole_/]

I thought the Blade Runner sequel was to the reboot from a few years ago, but I'm mixing it up with Total Recall. XD

I'd really like more original content too.

[hamsterwoman]

Blade Runner really does not strike me as a movie that can/should have a sequel (I suppose a film set in the same world, OK, but an actual sequel? WHY. And good point about having to work with the ambiguous/contradictory-depending-on-the-cut ending!)

[author-by-night.livejournal.com]

I think it's because Star Wars did the sequel the way a franchise should do sequels; it wasn't a repeat of the story, although there were some of the same themes - but seriously, I don't think that should be a problem. In any case, the old characters were there but the focus was on the new ones, there were new problems, so on and so forth. It worked. Whereas other sequels that are basically just "new sort of problem, new sort of place, new sort of time" flop because the audience is utterly bored by them.

[1-rhiannon-1.livejournal.com]

I think Harrison Ford would desperately like to hand over the Indy mantle to someone else if he could!

[orangerful.livejournal.com]

TO CHRIS PRATT!!!!!!! :D That was the best rumor, I want it to become true (mostly because I don't want it to be Shia)

[1-rhiannon-1.livejournal.com]

YES!!! I want Chris to take that mantle so bad I can taste it! He would rock it so hard! <3

[qwentoozla]

Ugh, I'm so sick of all the new sequels 20-30 years after the originals! Please let it stop! Poor Harrison Ford, having to redo all his most famous characters... Also, I never liked the original Blade Runner, to be honest. Definitely don't want to see the sequel.

[orangerful.livejournal.com]

Harrison and Steven BOTH agreed to do this so they are just as much at fault. No one can make them do these movies. And it used to be that Steven, George, and Harrison had to agree on a script first but that doesn't seem to be mentioned anywhere.

[geekslave.livejournal.com]

I don't mind the Indy announcement. I've never actually watched "Crystal Skull" so I don't know if it sucked as much as a lot of people said it did, but I have no problem in giving them a chance to correct any errors and make sure that's not the last impression of Indy. And I'd much rather see an actual sequel then another reboot.

Stacey

[teagues-veil.livejournal.com]

Ergh, sometimes the sequels need to just END. I thought they straight-up said there wouldn't be any more Indie movies! Uuuuuuug.

[doomcookie99.livejournal.com]

The Blade Runner sequel should be good. I like Wesley Snipes.

[rhoda-rants.livejournal.com]

Disney announced Indiana Jones 5 for 2019.
Because the last one was such a staggering success? 0_o

I can kinda see a need to revisit Blade Runner, actually, for two reasons:

1) They can make it less sexist and gross this time around.

2) It is literally the future and some of the sets look like real-life Beijing and Tokyo, so it's not futuristic anymore.

But that would be a remake situation, rather than a sequel. What would they even do with a sequel? There's no sequel to the book, and it's not like Philip K. Dick doesn't have a billion other stories to pull from.

[orangerful.livejournal.com]

Well, it broke the weekend record so sadly in Hollywood's eyes success = $$$$ not quality :(

Yeah, a Bladerunner REMAKE would be very different, but it sounds like this is a sequel...which doesn't mean they couldn't fix those same problems, it will be 30 years from that future's future.

[thistle-chaser.livejournal.com]

For every 10 reboot/sequel of a classic franchise, we get one good one.

I suspect that's being very generous, too...

[a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com]

OMG...Crystal Skull was awful (just because horrid writing, plot it's almost as if they said 'hell with the plot' halfway through, then realized they were stuck and wrote a choppy, crappy ending anyhow, and Indy's side-kick, who annoys me anyhow and I prefer it to be about Indy...NOT his sidekick.

They're seriously gonna do another IJ...AND another Bladerunner?!?! REALLY?!

*Sigh*

[orangerful.livejournal.com]

Crystal Skull is good for only one thing - RIFFTRAX! (https://youtu.be/KE7ycx_mHr8)

[a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com]

OMG...voiced by MST3K Mike Nelson (and didn't I hear Ton and Crow, lol!)

Thank you for this. It actually made it BETTER. *CACKLES*

[orangerful.livejournal.com]

They are there. :) I have watched that Rifftrax at least twice and it is one of their best. Even if 90% of it is "Harrison Ford is OLD" jokes, they are still funny every time.

[snogged.livejournal.com]

Crystal Skull was awful.

I loved 'Force Awakens.' I think it helped that George Lucas was not in control of that film. JJ Abrams is part of the new frontier. :)

[orangerful.livejournal.com]

I always say, no one hates Star Wars more than George Lucas! I think having a mega-fanboy like J.J. at the helm definitely made a difference. I just hope the second one is just as good (I'm still miffed about the second Star Trek...)

[kseenaa.livejournal.com]

That is true. Force Awakens was an amazing sequel. Hubby, who has been a hardcore Star Wards fan since he was a kid (he is 42 now), was totally blown away with the movie catching the feel from the old ones. :-)

I do agree about Indy though. I adored the old ones, and the beginning of Crystal Skull, but then second half and the end? Not so much. :-/

[orangerful.livejournal.com]

I know exactly how your husband felt, especially after us fans had our hearts crushed watching the prequels. It was so great to watch a Star Wars movie and have it feel like a Star Wars movie!

NO ALIENS IN INDIANA JONES!!!!! The core of Indy's movie adventures have always been a religious artifact and Nazis! That movie had neither. Blah.

[kseenaa.livejournal.com]

I'm one of those that don't mind the prequels that much. There's things I dislike, obviously, but there are also things I enjoy to. And of the three prequels the third one I like the best. Hubby agrees with me there, that it's the least weak one, and that it ties them all together quite nicely. But the feeling wasn't there 100%. Which it definitely was this time around. :-)

I have to wonder though... If they'll kill off all the oldies? Already started with Solo. ;-)

[orangerful.livejournal.com]

If I was told I had to watch a prequel movie on a loop for a day, I would pick Episode III, if only for that final lightsaber duel.

Ford wanted Han dead when Return of the Jedi was filmed and my theory is that is how they wooed him back to the series. I doubt they will touch Leia...though Luke definitely is at risk because he's totally Merlin/Gandalf/Obi-Wan and none of those guys made it out without a scratch (though they did tend to come back)

[kseenaa.livejournal.com]

Oh yes! That lightsaber duel was EPIC! Totally agree!

Interesting theory you got going there to! I look forward to see if you are right! And hey, if Luke is Gandalf, then he might return from the dead. ;-) It's going to be fun to see what they do with it for sure! And if they manage to keep up the quality from Force Awakens. :-)

[elizalavelle.livejournal.com]

I'm cautiously optimistic for the Beetlejuice sequel... but I'm still cautious about it. I wish we got more original movies. Tell me some new stories!

Agreed on Force Awakens. They captured something magical. Every sequel wishes it could do that but very very very few even come close to succeeding.